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Krackles's picture
Posted by: Krackles | September 24, 2010

Adequate Adkins

If Kirby + Royer is, as usual, a pleasure for my eyes, personnally, I would prefer to see Mr Royer undoing all the damages done to Kirby's pencils by inkers far from being as competent as Mr Adkins.

Les Toil's picture
Posted by: Les Toil (not verified) | January 26, 2011

Why?

There's absolutely no reason why Royer should have redone this page. Adkins' ink job was far superior to Royer's. There's enhancements and added zing with Dan's pencils. Why is that not considered a plus? Why not concentrate on truly BAD inkers like George Bell and early Colletta? And there's a ton of latter day Royer ink jobs that need a serious makeover.

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Posted by: Erik Larsen | August 3, 2011

I'm in the same boat.

As cool as it is to simply get Royer inking Jack--I'd much rather see him realizing a piece which had been butchered than seeing him recreate something that was inked well the first time.

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Posted by: Tom Kraft | August 3, 2011

I agree with everyone

What the heck was I thinking...spending all that money?

I'm hopefully commissioning Mick Gray to ink a pencil recreations I did for Jimmy Olsen #133 cover. I commissioned Mike Royer to do this version: http://www.whatifkirby.com/creations/supermans-pal-jimmy-olsen-issue-133.... I have an extra pencil version because Mike didn't like the smooth texture of the first one and so I did it again on rough surface bristol. Can't wait to see what Mick does...

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Posted by: albabe | January 6, 2012

(@ Erik Larsen Esq.) Oh horse-hockey...

Who cares... it's Mike doing a really nice Inking job on a nice cover that Dan did the Original nice Inking job. As far as I'm concerned, I'd love to see Sinnott and/or Terry Austin or you (Arrak Larsoon) or even me redo a cover that was originally Inked "nice." Variety is the spice of life.

Besides... Mike's neo page looks awesome!

Krackles's picture
Posted by: Krackles | January 6, 2012

One Man Art Creator

Al Gordon?
Like in… Al Gordon?

Man, how much did I love your work with Keith Giffen for Legion of Superheroes, pure joy!

I wish you could do your magic again on his recent pencils' work for Omac.

Frank Fosco's picture
Posted by: Frank Fosco | January 7, 2012

Hey, Al...

...just want to say welcome to WiK.

albabe's picture
Posted by: albabe | January 9, 2012

Hey Krackles (great

Hey Krackles (great handle!)

"One Man Art Creator?" Hmmm... not sure what that might mean.

Thanx so much for the kudos! It's always nice to hear.

I haven't seen much of Keith's recent work. I sure loved Inking him. I think he's pretty amazingly creative... and I would pretty much Ink his work any time I was asked.

Hey Frank! I sure loved your work on the TMNT. I wish I'd get the chance to Ink more "Big Foot" stuff like that.

I Inked the amazing Stan Goldberg way-back-when on Captain Carrot... but I was a newbie who had no clue.

And then years later, Dan DeCarlo asked me if I was interested in Inking a project that he was supposed to do with Terry Austin... For some reason Terry had to bail and Dan asked me. My jaw dropped... I was like a kid in a candy store... a dream come true. And then poor Dan passed away before we could start.

Krackles's picture
Posted by: Krackles | January 9, 2012

Bring back the Hecker, you pathetic dwarf!

Al, don't pay too much attention to my subject titles. They don't always make sense, it's just me playing wise.

Hey, I remember the first time I noticed your inking!
That was in a Marvel Team Up issue pencilled by John Byrne, the one with Luke Cage.

Keith Giffen sure took his own sweet time to get back behind a drawing board. I've been waiting since his Heckler days--Bring back the Heckler, you jerk!--(No offense, this is strictly between Keith and me, can't help myself against it).
His pencils style for Omac is much looser and cartoony than during your Legion run… I sure would like him to tighten it a bit.

Anyway, I'm still hoping somebody at Marvel might accidentally rediscover how to make use of his last functioning neuron and put Giffen and Gordon at work on the Fantastic Four!

albabe's picture
Posted by: albabe | January 9, 2012

Hey... what the...???!!!

I had zip to do with Heckler. That was Keith and the Bierbaums.

I think the Marvel Team-Up was my first Full Issue as a so-called Professional. I think Spider Woman #9 was next and then SW #8 - in that order. Which set up the whole thing of me constantly being under deadline pressure on that book.

The Team-Up isn't too terrible. On occasion there's a decent bit of Inking. The kinda strangely cool thing was that I was bad enough that John Romita "fixed" a few faces... and they look pretty awesome.

Actually... there are pages in that FF Mini Series - the Brain Child of Erik Larsen and Bruce Timm - that were done by Keith and I. That was a blast! I have a few pages that I saved because I thought they looked so cool. I'll put them up at FaceBook.

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Posted by: Frank Fosco | January 10, 2012

Thinking inks

Albabe said, "Hey Frank! I sure loved your work on the TMNT. I wish I'd get the chance to Ink more "Big Foot" stuff like that."

Thanks, Al--that was a fun little romp with the TMNT Gary Carlson and I did. One of the big thrills for me was to have Erik inking those covers. Now-a-days I'm doing a back up in Erik's Savage Dragon..."Vanguard."

And speaking of inking it was a blast to have Bruce Timm and Mike Royer ink the pages I did for that same FF mini series.

And Mike Royer did do a real nice job on this Captain America recreation. I also enjoy seeing other inkers takes on even the good pieces--it just doesn't have to be on what some would consider a butchered page by an inker. For instance--as nice as Joe Sinnott's inks are, how would a Tom Palmer approach that same page? It could be interesting.

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Posted by: patrick ford | January 10, 2012

Fun and Games

As much as I prefer Kirby's personal line style, and as a result strongly favor inkers who are as faithful as possible to it, there is a place where I actually wish I could see more experimentation.
While I think the front cover of TJKC should feature art hand coloured by Kirby whenever possible, I do wish John Morrow would get more adventurous with the back covers. I guess the steady diet of modern mainstream inkers helps attract fans, but I'd much rather see Gary Panter, Richard Corben, Gilbert Hernandez, Spain, Chester Brown, Charles Burns, etc. and see what they would do. Oddly even Jim Woodring has never shown up, and Woodring knew Kirby, and inked some of his work at Ruby Spears.
There's never any harm done on a recreation.

John S.'s picture
Posted by: John S. | January 11, 2012

Re: Fun and Games

This is probably more of a topic for a forum discussion, but if we're going to suggest potential inkers for re-creations (or TJKC covers), including some a bit more off-beat than others, I (as a Bronze Age comics fan) would suggest Joe Kubert, Bernie Wrightson, Tom Palmer, Mike Grell, Mike Golden and Jose Luis Garcia-Lopez.

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