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  • user warning: Incorrect key file for table './tomkraft_whatifkirby/cache_filter.MYI'; try to repair it query: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = '<p>...Trimpe on page 41. Dave--you do need to somehow get that page to Tom for this site--that would be swell. </p>\n<p>And anyone else who has ANY Kirby originals that have not been scanned for this site, please make an effort to get them to Tom at a Convention he may be going to that you\'re going to, and/or per his instruction, Tom has a way for you to scan it and get it to him. It would be much appreciated by all us Kirby enthusiast. Thanks!</p>\n', created = 1414792617, expire = 1414879017, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:d953cf6f64d4d37143ce4ea68278f263' in /home/tomkraft/public_html/includes/cache.inc on line 112.
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  • user warning: Incorrect key file for table './tomkraft_whatifkirby/cache_filter.MYI'; try to repair it query: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = '<p>Thanks to John S. and Krackles for the Trimpe information/confirmation. If someone wants a pic of it you can grab it off my website: <a href=\"http://www.comicartcybermall.com\" title=\"www.comicartcybermall.com\">www.comicartcybermall.com</a>. There\'s a Kirby section. [Old site, but it still works]</p>\n', created = 1414792617, expire = 1414879017, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:4a960323f6baeda551039110a32a7eb6' in /home/tomkraft/public_html/includes/cache.inc on line 112.
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  • user warning: Incorrect key file for table './tomkraft_whatifkirby/cache_filter.MYI'; try to repair it query: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = '<p>I own Captain America Bicentenial Battles #1 pg 41. I originally transcribed in my notes that the inking was by Trimpe or Romita. Some online source describes it this way: Herb Trimpe (pp.1-3); John Romita (pp.4-26); John Verpoorten (Assist). This doesn\'t exactly help since I need to know who inked page 41. Someone further up on this thread referenced a book published in 1969 - I think that\'s wrong - The date is 1976. Comics.org is an awkward road to no-where. I need to positively identify the inker. Any help is much appreciated. Okay to contact me directly: <a href=\"mailto:dave@comicartcybermall.com\">dave@comicartcybermall.com</a></p>\n', created = 1414792617, expire = 1414879017, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:99124ae59783538320420d4eb21f2060' in /home/tomkraft/public_html/includes/cache.inc on line 112.
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  • user warning: Incorrect key file for table './tomkraft_whatifkirby/cache_filter.MYI'; try to repair it query: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = '<p>I confirm John S. assertion.<br />\nThis is Trimpe only, he inked the whole airplane fight for \"Stop here for glory\" in Chapter Four.<br />\nThese are pages 37 to 44.</p>\n<p>I might add that it made sense to give inking chores to Herb Trimpe for this particular scene since he had some knack and love for drawing every kind of aircraft!<br />\nHe also did some nice inking on the last Silver Surfer issue done by Kirby (issue 18).</p>\n', created = 1414792617, expire = 1414879017, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:81be48fecaa6cb3814961f1889467182' in /home/tomkraft/public_html/includes/cache.inc on line 112.
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  • user warning: Incorrect key file for table './tomkraft_whatifkirby/cache_filter.MYI'; try to repair it query: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = '<p>Dave: Page 41 was inked by Herb Trimpe. Absolutely no Romita or Verpoorten on that page.</p>\n', created = 1414792617, expire = 1414879017, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:efea4fbc9c2047d08f662165d948afe9' in /home/tomkraft/public_html/includes/cache.inc on line 112.
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  • user warning: Incorrect key file for table './tomkraft_whatifkirby/cache_filter.MYI'; try to repair it query: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = '<p>Thanks. How do you know?</p>\n', created = 1414792617, expire = 1414879017, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:b749dfdd881b12f5b71b4ec9fae1d4a7' in /home/tomkraft/public_html/includes/cache.inc on line 112.
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  • user warning: Incorrect key file for table './tomkraft_whatifkirby/cache_filter.MYI'; try to repair it query: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = '<p>...with the Romita-inked pages and the Verpoorten-inked back cover. The inking styles are all different. The are no stylistic similarities in the art that can\'t be attributed entirely to the pencils. All three artists in question have their own distinctive inking styles. Conclusion: your page was inked entirely by Trimpe. </p>\n<p>Incidentally, in the comment above by Hannumal, he references the MARVEL COMICS INDEX listing for that book. I\'d just like to point out that the compilers of the index DO NOT count the covers as pages in their numbering; even though, in the actual BICENTENNIAL BATTLES book, the covers ARE included in the page numbering. Therefore, the index lists the Romita pages, for example, as 54 to 57, while in the book they\'re numbered as 56 to 59.</p>\n', created = 1414792617, expire = 1414879017, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:24d35cd9668652ab5d1e863e0c061723' in /home/tomkraft/public_html/includes/cache.inc on line 112.
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  • user warning: Incorrect key file for table './tomkraft_whatifkirby/cache_filter.MYI'; try to repair it query: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = '<p>Hi Dave, If you\'re willing and you go to any of the major comic cons, maybe there\'s an opportunity to scan and archive it for the Kirby Digital Archive and this site. I setup at cons with a professional scanner. There are also instructions/settings for scanning it yourself I can point you to. Then we all can study it closer.</p>\n', created = 1414792617, expire = 1414879017, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:471977ba0de18ddd03779a22c6c00406' in /home/tomkraft/public_html/includes/cache.inc on line 112.
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  • user warning: Incorrect key file for table './tomkraft_whatifkirby/cache_filter.MYI'; try to repair it query: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = '<p>I think I have Trimpe\'s email address. Adkins did a recreation for me in 2003 but I only have his mailing address. Perhaps its best to ask one of these guys.</p>\n', created = 1414792617, expire = 1414879017, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:459db05066962b37b620847ece8fa6d1' in /home/tomkraft/public_html/includes/cache.inc on line 112.
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  • user warning: Incorrect key file for table './tomkraft_whatifkirby/cache_filter.MYI'; try to repair it query: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = '<p>Actually there were a number of uncredited inkers on the Treasury. The inking on this page looks to be the work of Dan Adkins, not Trimpe, who I also believe inked a few other pages as well. Adkins line is slicker than Trimpe\'s, more in the style of Sinnott or Giacoia.</p>\n', created = 1414792617, expire = 1414879017, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:e6dc570fccf92e4c250b6eddd9123473' in /home/tomkraft/public_html/includes/cache.inc on line 112.
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  • user warning: Incorrect key file for table './tomkraft_whatifkirby/cache_filter.MYI'; try to repair it query: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = '<p>But rather Herb Trimpe!</p>\n', created = 1414792617, expire = 1414879017, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:55fdce9d03b5e36c82953ed708ff74aa' in /home/tomkraft/public_html/includes/cache.inc on line 112.
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  • user warning: Incorrect key file for table './tomkraft_whatifkirby/cache_filter.MYI'; try to repair it query: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = '<p>I still think this is the best Cap story ever to see print; Kirby\'s optimistic and simple patriotism makes it one from his heart.</p>\n', created = 1414792617, expire = 1414879017, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:4b1c8ea1e49c410b70710655041675a0' in /home/tomkraft/public_html/includes/cache.inc on line 112.
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  • user warning: Incorrect key file for table './tomkraft_whatifkirby/cache_filter.MYI'; try to repair it query: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = '<p>Thank you Hannumal, Frank and John for helping to clarify the inker. If I see Herb at WonderCon I\'ll ask him but I think we\'re all set. Tom</p>\n', created = 1414792617, expire = 1414879017, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:f8e5bfef4057412e8b17c21505b2da54' in /home/tomkraft/public_html/includes/cache.inc on line 112.
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  • user warning: Incorrect key file for table './tomkraft_whatifkirby/cache_filter.MYI'; try to repair it query: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = '<p>You could ask Herb Trimpe--but I think it\'s solved.</p>\n', created = 1414792617, expire = 1414879017, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:f8c15944c7a5160aa1457d5ab3237ddb' in /home/tomkraft/public_html/includes/cache.inc on line 112.
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  • user warning: Incorrect key file for table './tomkraft_whatifkirby/cache_filter.MYI'; try to repair it query: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = '<p>Thanks to Frank and Hannumal for answering for me! I couldn\'t have said it better myself. A couple more notes. Front cover inked by Giacoia; inside front cover inked by Romita; back cover PROBABLY inked by Verpoorten (looks more like his style than Giacoia\'s). Cheers!</p>\n', created = 1414792617, expire = 1414879017, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:7d6c5aea8e24252fea8a7b3c12492629' in /home/tomkraft/public_html/includes/cache.inc on line 112.
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  • user warning: Incorrect key file for table './tomkraft_whatifkirby/cache_filter.MYI'; try to repair it query: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = '<p>The Marvel Comics Index, Vol. 1A, HEROES FROM TALES OF SUSPENSE, BOOK ONE: CAPTAIN AMERICA, December 1979 lists the inkers as follows:<br />\nPages 1-11 inked by Barry Smith, pages 12-53, 58-77 inked by Herb Trimpe, pages 54-57 inked by John Romita; pin-up pages 78-80 and inside back cover by Jack Kirby/John Romita; back cover by Jack Kirby/Frank Giacoia.</p>\n', created = 1414792617, expire = 1414879017, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:94817fe7290d5ac44c16d72db3e7b454' in /home/tomkraft/public_html/includes/cache.inc on line 112.
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  • user warning: Incorrect key file for table './tomkraft_whatifkirby/cache_filter.MYI'; try to repair it query: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = '<p>The inkers credited for inking the Treasury edition were, Barry Smith, John Romita and Herb Trimpe--so it more then likely is Trimpe here seeing that Smith and Romita\'s styles are very recognizable--that would leave the other inker to be Trimpe.</p>\n', created = 1414792617, expire = 1414879017, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:2f0eaaad52f029f2e372fcd5aa28100a' in /home/tomkraft/public_html/includes/cache.inc on line 112.
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  • user warning: Incorrect key file for table './tomkraft_whatifkirby/cache_filter.MYI'; try to repair it query: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = '<p>Hi John, Looking at the page it isn\'t Giacoia as the back of the art claims. Comics.org indicates John Romita with assist from Dan Adkins inked this story but looking at the inks, I don\'t see much Romita. What do you think? Why Trimpe?</p>\n', created = 1414792617, expire = 1414879017, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:d0b55957f813a0277f2cb157072be8b2' in /home/tomkraft/public_html/includes/cache.inc on line 112.
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  • user warning: Incorrect key file for table './tomkraft_whatifkirby/cache_filter.MYI'; try to repair it query: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = '<p>Hi Tom,</p>\n<p>Inking on this page is by Herb Trimpe, not Giacoia.</p>\n', created = 1414792617, expire = 1414879017, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:7fce701d407e9db07e34fb9b224173a9' in /home/tomkraft/public_html/includes/cache.inc on line 112.
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Agreed...

...Trimpe on page 41. Dave--you do need to somehow get that page to Tom for this site--that would be swell.

And anyone else who has ANY Kirby originals that have not been scanned for this site, please make an effort to get them to Tom at a Convention he may be going to that you're going to, and/or per his instruction, Tom has a way for you to scan it and get it to him. It would be much appreciated by all us Kirby enthusiast. Thanks!

Captain America Bicentenial Battles #1 pg 41

Thanks to John S. and Krackles for the Trimpe information/confirmation. If someone wants a pic of it you can grab it off my website: www.comicartcybermall.com. There's a Kirby section. [Old site, but it still works]

Captain America Bicentenial Battles #1 pg 41

I own Captain America Bicentenial Battles #1 pg 41. I originally transcribed in my notes that the inking was by Trimpe or Romita. Some online source describes it this way: Herb Trimpe (pp.1-3); John Romita (pp.4-26); John Verpoorten (Assist). This doesn't exactly help since I need to know who inked page 41. Someone further up on this thread referenced a book published in 1969 - I think that's wrong - The date is 1976. Comics.org is an awkward road to no-where. I need to positively identify the inker. Any help is much appreciated. Okay to contact me directly: dave@comicartcybermall.com

On air!

I confirm John S. assertion.
This is Trimpe only, he inked the whole airplane fight for "Stop here for glory" in Chapter Four.
These are pages 37 to 44.

I might add that it made sense to give inking chores to Herb Trimpe for this particular scene since he had some knack and love for drawing every kind of aircraft!
He also did some nice inking on the last Silver Surfer issue done by Kirby (issue 18).

Page 41

Dave: Page 41 was inked by Herb Trimpe. Absolutely no Romita or Verpoorten on that page.

Captain America Bicentenial Battles #1 pg 41

Thanks. How do you know?

Just do a comparison...

...with the Romita-inked pages and the Verpoorten-inked back cover. The inking styles are all different. The are no stylistic similarities in the art that can't be attributed entirely to the pencils. All three artists in question have their own distinctive inking styles. Conclusion: your page was inked entirely by Trimpe.

Incidentally, in the comment above by Hannumal, he references the MARVEL COMICS INDEX listing for that book. I'd just like to point out that the compilers of the index DO NOT count the covers as pages in their numbering; even though, in the actual BICENTENNIAL BATTLES book, the covers ARE included in the page numbering. Therefore, the index lists the Romita pages, for example, as 54 to 57, while in the book they're numbered as 56 to 59.

Archiving the page

Hi Dave, If you're willing and you go to any of the major comic cons, maybe there's an opportunity to scan and archive it for the Kirby Digital Archive and this site. I setup at cons with a professional scanner. There are also instructions/settings for scanning it yourself I can point you to. Then we all can study it closer.

Adkins or Trimpe

I think I have Trimpe's email address. Adkins did a recreation for me in 2003 but I only have his mailing address. Perhaps its best to ask one of these guys.

Actually there were a number

Actually there were a number of uncredited inkers on the Treasury. The inking on this page looks to be the work of Dan Adkins, not Trimpe, who I also believe inked a few other pages as well. Adkins line is slicker than Trimpe's, more in the style of Sinnott or Giacoia.

Actually, Herb Trumpe it isn't!

But rather Herb Trimpe!

Bicentennial Battles

I still think this is the best Cap story ever to see print; Kirby's optimistic and simple patriotism makes it one from his heart.

Herb Trumpe it is!

Thank you Hannumal, Frank and John for helping to clarify the inker. If I see Herb at WonderCon I'll ask him but I think we're all set. Tom

You know what?--

You could ask Herb Trimpe--but I think it's solved.

Inkers

Thanks to Frank and Hannumal for answering for me! I couldn't have said it better myself. A couple more notes. Front cover inked by Giacoia; inside front cover inked by Romita; back cover PROBABLY inked by Verpoorten (looks more like his style than Giacoia's). Cheers!

Who inked this page?

The Marvel Comics Index, Vol. 1A, HEROES FROM TALES OF SUSPENSE, BOOK ONE: CAPTAIN AMERICA, December 1979 lists the inkers as follows:
Pages 1-11 inked by Barry Smith, pages 12-53, 58-77 inked by Herb Trimpe, pages 54-57 inked by John Romita; pin-up pages 78-80 and inside back cover by Jack Kirby/John Romita; back cover by Jack Kirby/Frank Giacoia.

Who inked this page?

The inkers credited for inking the Treasury edition were, Barry Smith, John Romita and Herb Trimpe--so it more then likely is Trimpe here seeing that Smith and Romita's styles are very recognizable--that would leave the other inker to be Trimpe.

Who inked this page?

Hi John, Looking at the page it isn't Giacoia as the back of the art claims. Comics.org indicates John Romita with assist from Dan Adkins inked this story but looking at the inks, I don't see much Romita. What do you think? Why Trimpe?

Correction

Hi Tom,

Inking on this page is by Herb Trimpe, not Giacoia.

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