The Mighty Thor, Issue 167, Page 15


John S.'s picture
Posted by: John S. | November 26, 2011


This is a beautiful page of uninked Kirby pencils. I haven't read the issue from which this page was rejected, so I have no idea what Stan's rationale was for not including it in the story -- but it's nice to see such a fine example of Jack's pencilling from this period surviving in its original form.

Tom Kraft's picture
Posted by: Tom Kraft | November 26, 2011

Creation candidate?

I agree it is beautiful. I may consider asking Royer if he's willing to do a recreation of the pencils and ink this one.

John S.'s picture
Posted by: John S. | November 26, 2011

That'd be nice...

...and I'm sure Mike would enjoy doing it!

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Posted by: patrick ford | November 27, 2011

TJKC #52

John, The reason this page was rejected is explained in TJKC #52. It wasn't just one page there were quite a few more, some of which Kirby was able to rework, and use as part of a Silver Surfer story in an issue of the FF.
Kirby had decided to use several issues of Thor to set down the origin of Galactus. Lee didn't like the story, and rewrote it to such an extent Kirby's story was completely scuttled and major redraws were called for. BY no means was this an isolated incident. Lee continuously changed Kirby's stories during the 60's. Other examples are Kirby's intent for the Silver Surfer, the Ditko inspired Him storyline, Kirby's Inhumans storyline, and many more.
This went on right up until the time Kirby left Marvel. Two later examples were the short story "Morgan's Monster" and the rejected "Janus" story intended for the FF.
The more I learn about the era, the more I'm inclined to believe once Perfect Film and Chemical became aware of Kirby's role in the creation of the characters they, along with Martin Goodman and Lee, set about trying to force Kirby to quit.
Kirby made every effort to stay at Marvel, even with an offer from Carmine Infantino in hand. Mark Evanier has pointed out Kirby flew to New York in December 1969 in order to try and secure a contract with Marvel. In Jan. 1970 Kirby received an "insulting contract" offer from Perfect Film contained numerous legal stipulations while offering nothing in return. And Perfect Film insisted Kirby sign the onerous contract if he wished to remain with the company.
Some folks might find this hard to believe, but it had been shown back in 1941 that Martin Goodman valued Captain America more than he did Kirby and Simon.

John S.'s picture
Posted by: John S. | November 27, 2011

Very Interesting

I wasn't aware that Kirby had received that contract offer from Marvel, but I can totally believe they tried to force him out, considering their history of unethical business practices. I'm also of the opinion that Lee's blatantly false ORIGINS OF MARVEL COMICS, and its sequels, were written to provide an "official" company history that deliberately minimized Jack's role in the creation of the Marvel superheroes. All it shows is that Jack was right to move to DC when he did...and what a bunch of slimy, lowlife creeps the people at Marvel were. They sure expended a lot of resources to screw Jack over! It would have been a LOT more beneficial to all parties involved to just acknowledge Jack's contributions and keep him working productively at the company!! It also makes me wonder, if Kirby were still alive and active today, just what he'd be doing. My guess is he'd be writing and drawing his own books for a company like Image, or starting up his own webcomics company to publish his work online, to a worldwide audience, without interference from any of the corporate gangsters he had to deal with in the old days.

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