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Posted by: Hans Kosenkranius | August 3, 2012

New Gods #1 Cover?

According to many Kirby collectors, this is regarded as New Gods #1 since this image appears to have been used for the cvr. after it was statted and reduced with a collage background added. No other finished cover art has yet surfaced to this issue.

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Posted by: JADowdell | August 3, 2012

New Gods #1

This may have just become my favorite original piece on this this site! Kirby in 1968, smooth and beautiful inks, classic character, and color! I've seen this before in TJKC but you have to love the raw look of the scan.

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Posted by: patrick ford | August 3, 2012

Funny Business

I recall reading Kirby had a lot of trouble getting the original collage cover back from DC. It was a stat of the presentation art right here which was probably slightly reworked by Kirby with ink and colour, and then added to the background collage. Mark Evanier said Kirby had to make repeated demands before he got the original back, and then it was badly wrinkled as if it had been scrunched up in a drawer. I'd love to see that piece, wonder what happened to it?

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Posted by: KingK | August 3, 2012

New Gods #1

I remember seeing the Lightray piece from this series of character designs Jack did and presented as proposals for the Fourth World stuff for National/DC, when I was in San Diego in 2005. Just walking by some art dealer's booth and spotting the Lightray piece... Wow! I think he wanted $5000 for it... If only I had the dough... Unreal. Just beautiful to behold, this one too!!

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Posted by: patrick ford | August 3, 2012

The Advantage

I had always assumed the eyes on this piece were little pasted down eyes cut out from a photograph. Using ZOOM I see that isn't the case.

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Posted by: Steven Brower (not verified) | August 4, 2012

Inking

Aren't the inks by Don Heck?

KingK's picture
Posted by: KingK | August 4, 2012

I think Heck inked the Gods

I think Heck inked the Gods portfolio, both have Kirby's similar colouring style. I was kind of surprised, and pleased to see that Giacoia was listed as inker on these! He's my fav Kirby inker!

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Posted by: John S. | August 5, 2012

Yes...

...Heck DID ink the (Norse) GODS portfolio.

patford's picture
Posted by: patford (not verified) | August 4, 2012

Credits

No the inks are by Frank Giacoia. The confusion stems from the fact Don Heck inked some of the late presentation pieces Kirby created in the late '60s, and Giacoia and Kirby inked others. Some examples:
http://kirbymuseum.org/gallery/v/Gods/Metron.jpg.html Kirby inks, colour, and collage.
http://kirbymuseum.org/gallery/v/Gods/Darkseid.jpg.html Kirby inks, colour and collage.
http://kirbymuseum.org/gallery/v/Gods/Orion.jpg.html Giacoia inks, Kirby colour.
http://kirbymuseum.org/gallery/v/Gods/Lightray.jpg.html Giacoia inks, Kirby colour
http://kirbymuseum.org/gallery/v/Gods/CaptainGlory.jpg.html Giacoia inks, Kirby colour.

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Posted by: Chrissie_H | August 4, 2012

I've been tempted

I've been tempted occasionally to do a visual guide to the differences between Don Heck and Frank Giacoia! One of the most obvious ones though, is Heck's use of a (dip?) pen vs his brush work -- the two are obviously separate, you can distinguish between them at a glance. Whatever pen Giacoia used, it's a seamless whole. Giacoia is very smooth. Heck's inking is a bit scratchy.

patford's picture
Posted by: patford (not verified) | August 4, 2012

Pen vs Brush

The smooth look of Giacoia's inking is due to him using a brush rather than a pen.

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Posted by: John S. | August 4, 2012

Totally Correct

Heck and Giacoia have such completely different inking styles it just boggles my mind that anyone could mistake one for the other. I'll say it again loud and clear: Anyone who thinks this picture was inked by Don Heck is absolutely WRONG.

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Posted by: Frank Fosco | August 4, 2012

re: Totally Correct

Agreed.

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Posted by: Krackles | August 4, 2012

Working under cover

Now, this IS a really Giacoia's gorgeous handiwork!

NOW, please, could someone fix the inker credit on the final mess that has become of the New Gods #1 cover? (http://www.whatifkirby.com/creations/new-gods-issue-1-cover).

I never believed Giacoia did ink it in the first place and this pinup confirms that my claim had some ground.
Perhaps, someone traced it Kirby/Giacoia pinup use on the cover?

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Posted by: Anonymous (not verified) | August 5, 2012

Giagoia ususally = Meh.

Giacoia's inks always look flat, uninspired...boring. Rarely have they appeared to me to have any life whatsoever. Yeah, yeah... "Jack loved Frank.." blah blah blah. He also loved Thibodeaux and Theakston and I don't know of any sane person who loves Jack's artwork, thinking either of them were any good.

That said, until I saw this piece close up, I had always accepted as gospel, that it had been inked by Don Heck, since M.E. is rarely incorrect in his reccollections. Upon closer look via Zoom, its easy to see Frank's style, especially on the trunks and fingers. This, i think, is the only time in history, where I can say Giacoia's work doesn't make me ill.

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Posted by: Krackles | August 5, 2012

Not for Meh!

Flat and uninspired?
Quite the contrary for me and I would say for quite a number of art lovers.
Giacoia's work was clean and bold, crisp and lush, poweful and elegant. Frank was also a master in spotting juicy blacks!

I feel sorry for you if you can't look at Giacoia's work without feeling ill.
Try Cholera… I mean, Colletta.

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Posted by: kirbyditko | August 7, 2012

The Inking...

God, I love this piece! 'Nuff said!

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Posted by: Anonymous (not verified) | August 8, 2012

giacoia=MEH

No thanks krackles.... crapletta's work already send me running in the opposite direction. The only time I ever can say his work looked good was ... umm.... when he inked his own stuff. Yeah... that's it. :/

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Posted by: Mark Evanier (not verified) | February 7, 2013

This was inked by Don Heck.

This was inked by Don Heck. So was the corresponding Lightray drawing. So was the Captain Glory drawing.

And this is the piece that Jack sent to DC for the cover of NEW GODS #1. In fact, I think I packaged and addressed it. The folks at DC took the image and built the published cover from it without Jack's input and he did no other work on that cover except to send in a mockup of the logo and lettering.

For a long time, this piece wasn't returned to Jack and he kept demanding it. Finally, they found it scrunched in a drawer and folded in half. Someone did a good job flattening it out but if you look at the back side, you can still see where it was folded.

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